Animal rights activists, as with the more broader environmentalists, tend to go overboard with their arguments, as this guy does, and their incoherence is only topped by their single-minded obsession.
I found this post rather amusing, and I feel like mocking his arguments, just for fun. Nothing personal. And, please accept my apologies if my idiocy offends you. It’s just like letting off some steam.
So here goes:
1) Life is a cycle! We are born. We live and we die. Different life forms have different life spans and different life forms feed on different life forms. It seems to be cruel but look around outside this earth and you will notice that there is no other form of life out there that doesn’t go by these rules.
Genius! Yes, we are born, some of us limited mental capabilities too, unfortunately. Some of us just don’t die… remember, Darth Vader, Luke’s father? Immortality… that’s especially for humans (and stupid human ideas).
No, no, no, I think all animals live just as long as the other. It’s all about the right perspective… think from a cat’s point of view… our 5 years is probably 50 for the cat! So we all live just as long.
As for food, again, think from the pig’s perspective… that shit tastes like Filet Mignon. That rotten mice … hmmm… Caviar!
Empathy, my friend. Empathy is what you need. Empathize with the animals. Only then will you realize that all animals and humans eat the same and live just as long.
Cruelty? What’s cruel is your inability to truly empathize with your dog.
2) Humans like other forms of life are part of this cycle. And don’t anybody be fooled. We are not at the head of this cycle. Put any human naked in the woods without any weapons and one or other animals would have a field day on that naked person.
Come on, we are special. We are humans. We created Darth Vader, Luke, Han Solo, Superman, Spiderman, your brain. We created rantrave.com so we could be tortured by your opinions. So, we can’t be part of this cycle. See?
What a sadistic mind you seem to have! Letting wild animals have a field day with a naked human in the woods?
See, that’s why we are at the head of this cycle. Leaders and thinkers can’t be expected to use their brawn.
3) What makes us different is our ability to adapt. For some reason animals lack to the same degree this ability. We are able to build and construct and manipulate based on foresight which I do not know if animals have or haven’t. One thing is for sure they don’t use it to modify their environment.
We can adapt? Can we somehow adapt to ignore the opinions of your ilk?
Animals don’t adapt?! Haven’t you seen all those horror movies involving animals who start eating humans. That’s adaption! Wanna try it out? Yeah, you should… go to those croc-infested rivers in Australia and see.
Animals have foresight. They can build, construct and manipulate. See, they did all this a long time back. They had the foresight to forgo all opinions. They manipulated their way out of possessing stupid opinions like yours.
Animals don’t modify their environment? Haven’t you heard about the tigers and lions and crocs pissing all over the place to define their zones. All that urea … that’s modifying the environment. And those cows releasing Methane… damn does that modify the environment or what?!
4) Do we have a moral obligation to animals? That is an ambiguous question. Because to answer it one has to define morality. And morality seems to be debateable so here is a better question. Do we want to forgo our ability of foresight and manipulation of our environment so that we could eat absolutely every animal plant and fungus we see till there is nothing but us and then we start to eat ourselves?
No, there’s nothing ambiguous about that question. We have the moral obligation to eat animals… imagine what would happen if chickens overran the world? What if goats and cows roamed our bedrooms? Imagine their plight.
So we gotta eat ‘em.
Morality is so “debateable” that there’s no debate over its definition, except in your mind. It’s like when you reach one extreme, you cross over to the other side. The Dark Side.
Now, back to the eating of animals. Now, I wouldn’t want to eat every “animal plant and fungus we see till there is nothing but us and then we start to eat ourselves.”
First, what’s an “animal plant”? Like those carnivorous plants? Have you tried eating the Pitcher plant? I don’t think it tastes that good. And fungi? Smoke ‘em ’shrooms!
So, we agree that even if we eat up all those “animal plant” and fungus, there will still be enough animals and plants left over to eat. Good.
5) We all agree that we are intelligent. Animals I’m sure find that debatable. Then perhaps we should embrace some fundamental truths before we critique each other.
We are intelligent, but it’s debatable if that includes you and your ilk. So, in that sense, we are like animals. We, and the animals, find it debatable that you are intelligent.
Let’s embrace those dog collars for y’all. Lack of intelligence, as in your case, can be dangerous.
A) All life has purpose
Holy crap! I was living life without any purpose all this while.
B) It is not up to humans to define that purpose.
Will that goat I was just going to slaughter help me define my purpose for me?
C) Everything must eat.
No, it’s only lower beings like us who must eat. You, the superior beings, can survive on talk and more talk.
D) Animals aren’t always food.
Agreed! I don’t like lizards or cockroaches. But, buffalo? Tasty, tasty, tasty.
E) Humans eat animals out of choice not necessity.
And, what a choice! T-bone, sirloin, flank, filet mignon … mmm, mmm, mmmm … tasty!
F) Cruelty is a human construct.
Construct? Just like that building you live inside?
G) Cruelty demonstrates a human imbalance.
Cruelty demonstrates? No way! When’s the next showing?
H) We should exercise self restraint for our own survival
Oh, yeah… exercise self restraint … exactly … you should never try to think too deeply. You know, let’s it keep it simple for you. Animals = tasty food.
I) All life benefits from our responsibility.
Exactly! If we don’t eat all those extra deer and then they eat up all their source of sustenance, what’ll happen to all the deer?
So, we gotta be responsible and eat them deer and elk.
6) We can’t have it both ways. Either we are all animals and we start acting like it and only eat raw meat that we killed and caught ourselves with our own bare hands while we ran around naked in the woods or we admit that we are not animal and that we are a higher life form and that we do have a moral obligation to the world around us and to our selves. We can not say we are animals and then kill arbitrarily for our own pleasure, sport or gratification. While we destroy indiscriminately all habitat and keep reproducing like a bad infection. Because that is bad.
We can have it both ways. At least some of us can. Especially if you’re a girl. For a guy, well, that’d be tough or immoral.
So, if I am running around naked, killing animals with my bare hands and eating that deer raw, I would be right? Yay!
You know, how about we put on some camouflage (animals have camouflage too) and take that 12 ga. Shotguns are just like extensions of my hands – they recommend even attaching it to your cheek.
Raw meat? Too tough. Let’s cook it up with some sage and basil and cayenne and what not… tasty!
So, from this perspective hunting animals fits in with your viewpoint just fine.
It is because we humans have the upper hand over animals that we should be judicious over our choices. Nine times out of ten we are not. Mostly the only times we consider animals is when we want to eat them, take their habitat and play with them. Even then we only consider our desires and not their needs.
Animals need to be eaten. That’s their destiny. And, hey, animals eat other animals. Can’t you feel the plight of those “other” animals? If we don’t the first set of animals, they will brutally murder (possibly homicides) those “other” animals. So, we are doing a favor to those “other” animals.
Let’s stop considering our desires. How about we start with you… stop having sex, don’t pro-create. That way you will spare our future generations with more geniuses like yourself.
To make things worst, we only take from them so that we can mindlessly reproduce and make more of us. We hate it when other humans mindlessly reproduce and expect others to provide for them but it is even worst when we take resources that are obviously not ours that belong to the whole planet and we use it only on our selves.
Don’t like reproduction? Boy, do I have the perfect solution for you? Just read my previous point.
I definitely hate it when mindless humans like you reproduce and expect my kids to tolerate your kids.
Damn it, bro. America was built on stealing from the Natives … if you don’t like stealing resources, I would suggest moving to Brazil … whoops that was stolen by the Portuguese … or to Africa. Yeah, go to the desert or the equatorial forests.
A child not born will never miss a thing! So the best thing to do is not to have children that will overpopulate the planet. But if we do have children then we should be responsible and teach them how to share with the other creatures here.
Yeah! Your child not born will be glad. I totally agree with your prescription. Let’s prevent the crazies from reproducing.
And, when we have children, let’s teach ‘em how to find food the right way … camouflage and arm extending shotguns.
I guess the question that pops up in my head is: Should we destroy and eat and plunder indiscriminately because we are “smarter” than the beasts we share this world with?
Let’s not “destroy and eat and plunder indiscriminately.” Let’s do it more subtly, eh?
I am Siempre Solo and I have something to say!
Say it to yourself in your bathroom when you’re taking a shower. Or, when you’re running around naked, killing animals with your bare hands and consuming raw meat. Nobody will hear you then.
